@Okie wrote:
For bar shops with cash payment, I've had the same experience and ran into all variations you mentioned when it came to the payment and change part. For the shops I've done for Coyle, I believe it's always been tip based on the pre-tax amount.
Some places say they're cash-less and only take credit card. I don't think I've ever had an issue with reporting this. If it's a location that's been shopped long enough, I think they know.
If there's a check presenter/mini-clipboard, I'll leave the cash in there. If there's no check presenter, I'll leave the cash next to my drink half-way towards the bartender's side of the counter. Maybe if it's crowded, set the cash under a clean coaster at your seat.
Some bar shops ask that you request a receipt, some say not to request a receipt. I found that the coffee/cafe shops are more likely to give exact change, where there's a tip jar, and bars tend to round up to the nearest dollar, in the customer's favor.
For the places that give back change including coins, I'll try to give back all of the coins in the form of a tip. It the tip guidelines state a range of like 15-20%, I'll pick the highest amount with the coins included.
For the places that round up or down to the nearest dollar, I'll calculate the difference between the actual change amount that should be due versus what was given, and factor that difference into the tip. So far, I've haven't had any issues with editors on this.
Some transactions, where the amount is small due to happy hour, like a $3 beer, I round the tip up to the nearest whole dollar. I haven't had any issues with editors on this.
I think the only time I've ever received a comment about a tip amount, was an online order, where I went with pre-selected tip percentage options, which was pre-tax. But the guidelines specifically stated post-tax.
@olympia tennenbaum wrote:
@Okie wrote:
For bar shops with cash payment, I've had the same experience and ran into all variations you mentioned when it came to the payment and change part. For the shops I've done for Coyle, I believe it's always been tip based on the pre-tax amount.
Some places say they're cash-less and only take credit card. I don't think I've ever had an issue with reporting this. If it's a location that's been shopped long enough, I think they know.
If there's a check presenter/mini-clipboard, I'll leave the cash in there. If there's no check presenter, I'll leave the cash next to my drink half-way towards the bartender's side of the counter. Maybe if it's crowded, set the cash under a clean coaster at your seat.
Some bar shops ask that you request a receipt, some say not to request a receipt. I found that the coffee/cafe shops are more likely to give exact change, where there's a tip jar, and bars tend to round up to the nearest dollar, in the customer's favor.
For the places that give back change including coins, I'll try to give back all of the coins in the form of a tip. It the tip guidelines state a range of like 15-20%, I'll pick the highest amount with the coins included.
For the places that round up or down to the nearest dollar, I'll calculate the difference between the actual change amount that should be due versus what was given, and factor that difference into the tip. So far, I've haven't had any issues with editors on this.
Some transactions, where the amount is small due to happy hour, like a $3 beer, I round the tip up to the nearest whole dollar. I haven't had any issues with editors on this.
I think the only time I've ever received a comment about a tip amount, was an online order, where I went with pre-selected tip percentage options, which was pre-tax. But the guidelines specifically stated post-tax.
I was admonished about the tip and had something like $.23 taken out of my reimbursement lol.
I guess I’ll just state if they are cashless. If I have $70 with a $59 and $20 and it’s $58 and they have no change i guess il’ll just pay with a card. I can’t have a cash drawer on me.
I guess I feel concerned about leaving the bar with the cash sitting there because I can not say I know the bartender didn’t pocket it. This is in the instance of having exact change on me. I always slightly worry something like this will cause my shop to be rejected and I won’t be reimbursed for $300 of medicine food. Let’s hope not!
@bradkcrew wrote:
@olympia tennenbaum wrote:
@Okie wrote:
For bar shops with cash payment, I've had the same experience and ran into all variations you mentioned when it came to the payment and change part. For the shops I've done for Coyle, I believe it's always been tip based on the pre-tax amount.
Some places say they're cash-less and only take credit card. I don't think I've ever had an issue with reporting this. If it's a location that's been shopped long enough, I think they know.
If there's a check presenter/mini-clipboard, I'll leave the cash in there. If there's no check presenter, I'll leave the cash next to my drink half-way towards the bartender's side of the counter. Maybe if it's crowded, set the cash under a clean coaster at your seat.
Some bar shops ask that you request a receipt, some say not to request a receipt. I found that the coffee/cafe shops are more likely to give exact change, where there's a tip jar, and bars tend to round up to the nearest dollar, in the customer's favor.
For the places that give back change including coins, I'll try to give back all of the coins in the form of a tip. It the tip guidelines state a range of like 15-20%, I'll pick the highest amount with the coins included.
For the places that round up or down to the nearest dollar, I'll calculate the difference between the actual change amount that should be due versus what was given, and factor that difference into the tip. So far, I've haven't had any issues with editors on this.
Some transactions, where the amount is small due to happy hour, like a $3 beer, I round the tip up to the nearest whole dollar. I haven't had any issues with editors on this.
I think the only time I've ever received a comment about a tip amount, was an online order, where I went with pre-selected tip percentage options, which was pre-tax. But the guidelines specifically stated post-tax.
I was admonished about the tip and had something like $.23 taken out of my reimbursement lol.
I guess I’ll just state if they are cashless. If I have $70 with a $59 and $20 and it’s $58 and they have no change i guess il’ll just pay with a card. I can’t have a cash drawer on me.
I guess I feel concerned about leaving the bar with the cash sitting there because I can not say I know the bartender didn’t pocket it. This is in the instance of having exact change on me. I always slightly worry something like this will cause my shop to be rejected and I won’t be reimbursed for $300 of medicine food. Let’s hope not!
I was admonished as well for over-tipping by 10 cents, and the 10 cent reimbursement was withheld. I picked the auto tip on the card reader, and apparently it wasn't accurate.
@Okie wrote:
Yikes, I don't think I've ever run into a situation where the MSC adjusted for cents on the dollar. I think most MSCs, even though the stated tip maximum amount is 18% on some shops, they've reimbursed me for a 20% tip I left.
On some of the teller shops recently, after the required transaction is over, I'll ask the teller to break and provide change for me. Lately, I've been carrying smaller bills on me.
Sometimes, if you already know the tip amount, you can give them a set initial amount. When they give your back your change, you can tell them to keep the change right then and be done with the transaction. Or ask them a question or engage with them for a bit, and then give them the tip right then. It depends on the situation though. Good luck!
@Madetoshop wrote:
How is it determined that a bar evaluation is needed/necessary?
@MMMM wrote:
I realize it's a typo but I am sure many bartenders perceive us that way
@SteveSoCal wrote:
@MMMM wrote:
I realize it's a typo but I am sure many bartenders perceive us that way
Yes...SEPARATE bar shops, where you can get two rounds and an appetizer or two. Like a normal bar guest.
As much as I sometimes complain about Coyle, I had a realization today; I have one MSC that emails me about 5-10 times er day. I have done 1 assignment for them this year and made $10. I receive less than 1 unsolicited email from Coyle per month, and they are my main employer in the MSC world.
While the reports may be tiresome and the instructions out of date, the money earned vs. time spend wading through offers is decent. I am also on track to exceed my usual $50k in reimbursements from them for 2024.
@Okie wrote:
When I was doing my 2023 taxes, I started tracking the total reimbursement amount from shops to analyze. I was surprised how high the reimbursement amount got to. I started doing the sit-down dining and hotel shops last year, but it made me reevaluate and reconsider the reimbursement element for tax purposes.
@bradkcrew wrote:
@olympia tennenbaum wrote:
@Okie wrote:
For bar shops with cash payment, I've had the same experience and ran into all variations you mentioned when it came to the payment and change part. For the shops I've done for Coyle, I believe it's always been tip based on the pre-tax amount.
Some places say they're cash-less and only take credit card. I don't think I've ever had an issue with reporting this. If it's a location that's been shopped long enough, I think they know.
If there's a check presenter/mini-clipboard, I'll leave the cash in there. If there's no check presenter, I'll leave the cash next to my drink half-way towards the bartender's side of the counter. Maybe if it's crowded, set the cash under a clean coaster at your seat.
Some bar shops ask that you request a receipt, some say not to request a receipt. I found that the coffee/cafe shops are more likely to give exact change, where there's a tip jar, and bars tend to round up to the nearest dollar, in the customer's favor.
For the places that give back change including coins, I'll try to give back all of the coins in the form of a tip. It the tip guidelines state a range of like 15-20%, I'll pick the highest amount with the coins included.
For the places that round up or down to the nearest dollar, I'll calculate the difference between the actual change amount that should be due versus what was given, and factor that difference into the tip. So far, I've haven't had any issues with editors on this.
Some transactions, where the amount is small due to happy hour, like a $3 beer, I round the tip up to the nearest whole dollar. I haven't had any issues with editors on this.
I think the only time I've ever received a comment about a tip amount, was an online order, where I went with pre-selected tip percentage options, which was pre-tax. But the guidelines specifically stated post-tax.
I was admonished about the tip and had something like $.23 taken out of my reimbursement lol.
I guess I’ll just state if they are cashless. If I have $70 with a $59 and $20 and it’s $58 and they have no change i guess il’ll just pay with a card. I can’t have a cash drawer on me.
I guess I feel concerned about leaving the bar with the cash sitting there because I can not say I know the bartender didn’t pocket it. This is in the instance of having exact change on me. I always slightly worry something like this will cause my shop to be rejected and I won’t be reimbursed for $300 of medicine food. Let’s hope not!
I was admonished as well for over-tipping by 10 cents, and the 10 cent reimbursement was withheld. I picked the auto tip on the card reader, and apparently it wasn't accurate.
@SteveSoCal wrote:
I was averaging one dinner per week for the first 10 months of the year.
@redpanda711 wrote:
I have one more shop scheduled with them for this year. I’m going to take a few months off after that. I just don’t feel like they respect shoppers. I know that’s an issue with mystery shopping overall, but I hadn’t had that experience as much with Coyle until recently.