Interesting conversation with an editor at IPSOS

@mystery2me wrote:

Yes, break-ups suck. It never feels good, and we go through many emotions. Nothing to do but move on even if we know they are worse off without us. Most of us have been banned from an MSC or project at one time or another.for something we feel is no fault of our own. We feel you. But in the case of an MSC or client, they have already moved on, even if they haven't found another person yet. They know they will. They always do.

This has nothing to do with any break up. I still do shops for this company. I find it disappointing when someone stands in the way of a company trying to get jobs done. The client hires this MSC and the MSC is preventing the jobs from being completed.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/14/2024 08:10PM by johnb974.

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@johnb974 wrote:

@mystery2me wrote:

Yes, break-ups suck. It never feels good, and we go through many emotions. Nothing to do but move on even if we know they are worse off without us. Most of us have been banned from an MSC or project at one time or another.for something we feel is no fault of our own. We feel you. But in the case of an MSC or client, they have already moved on, even if they haven't found another person yet. They know they will. They always do.

This has nothing to do with any break up. I still do shops for this company. I find it disappointing when someone stands in the way of a company trying to get jobs done. The client hires this MSC and the MSC is preventing the jobs from being completed.

So you wouldn't care at all about being banned from this client if the shops were picked up by someone else? You would stop posting here about your ban, and all would be ok?!?

And maybe the contract with the client isn't for 100% completion. Maybe the client REALLY only wants like 80% of the locations completed, so the ones on your area are just fine not being done. Every contract with a client is different, and I'm 1000000% sure you aren't aware of what this specific client wants.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/14/2024 08:17PM by viv0412.
@viv0412 wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

@mystery2me wrote:

Yes, break-ups suck. It never feels good, and we go through many emotions. Nothing to do but move on even if we know they are worse off without us. Most of us have been banned from an MSC or project at one time or another.for something we feel is no fault of our own. We feel you. But in the case of an MSC or client, they have already moved on, even if they haven't found another person yet. They know they will. They always do.

This has nothing to do with any break up. I still do shops for this company. I find it disappointing when someone stands in the way of a company trying to get jobs done. The client hires this MSC and the MSC is preventing the jobs from being completed.

So you wouldn't care at all about being banned from this client if the shops were picked up by someone else? You would stop posting here about your ban, and all would be ok?!?

And maybe the contract with the client isn't for 100% completion. Maybe the client REALLY only wants like 80% of the locations completed, so the ones on your area are just fine not being done. Every contract with a client is different, and I'm 1000000% sure you aren't aware of what this specific client wants.

I wouldn't mind if I knew someone else was making money. The jobs are getting done for the client. They must need these jobs completed because they keep posting them week after week. Maybe someone at the MSC has banned others from doing these same jobs, because they are not being taken.
It could also be that the other shoppers in your area are just waiting for bonuses. I don't do those at $16.. I have done them with $9 bonuses. And they DO get bonused in my area. I do them for base pay occasionally, when I need to go into a corporate store for an issue with one of my devices.
If I was an MSC I would much prefer to let the shop sit there and sit there rather than have it done by someone who has done the same shop at the same locations over and over again month after month and whose shop therefore has no real value any longer. Better no shop than a shop done by someone who, no matter how well he may do it, has simply run out his string. I would consider that I had lost nothing. But that's just me.
I wouldn't mind if I knew someone else was making money.
Post your city and state. We'll circle the wagons, form a caravan, and be right there.

The jobs are not getting done. They are hurting the company.
The MSC is losing money.
If you're so worried about Ipsos' financial health, you should offer to work for free in perpetuity. Not on the cell phone project, of course - they don't want your grubby little paws on that, even if it is free labor. Think of it this way - there would be no more of those pesky Ipsos 1099s for you to deal with. Phew! It has to be exhausting trying to keep all your schemes spinning. And we worry about you, John, we really do. We're concerned that you're going to get overwhelmed and miss an opportunity to cheat and screw somebody over, or else you'll slip and pay somebody you owe. You should take some time off and go somewhere where you can unplug; I hear the jungle in Bora Bora is nice this time of year! Meanwhile, we'll hold down the fort and make sure Ipsos doesn't become insolvent.

If your path dictates you walk through hell, do it as though you own the place. -unknown
@panama18 wrote:

If I was an MSC I would much prefer to let the shop sit there and sit there rather than have it done by someone who has done the same shop at the same locations over and over again month after month and whose shop therefore has no real value any longer. Better no shop than a shop done by someone who, no matter how well he may do it, has simply run out his string. I would consider that I had lost nothing. But that's just me.

They have different sales people in many of the same shop location. If they were concerned with that, they could have just asked me to do shops in other areas, but they did not.
@drdoggie00 wrote:

Cutting out your post and answering.

I don't tell anyone on here where I live, and I don't work for free. If the jobs are not on your board, you're not in my area.


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2024 12:46AM by johnb974.
ya know.. If we'd all just kept our mouths shut, he would have flamed out and been deactivated a long time ago. this is our punishment for answering his questions.
@johnb974 wrote:

Cutting out your post and answering.

I don't tell anyone on here where I live, and I don't work for free. If the jobs are not on your board, you're not in my area.
Then your concerns about the shops going unfilled, the client not getting what they're paying for, and the MSC losing money are as phony as my concern for you.

Better come up with another reason because these don't pass the sniff test. You could try stating the truth for once: "I screwed up and got outed, and it's all my fault that I'm now banned from these shops."

Acceptance is healing, not to mention it'd be a breath of fresh air for all the rest of us. Put your big boy pants on and deal with it.

If your path dictates you walk through hell, do it as though you own the place. -unknown
@johnb974 wrote:

@prince wrote:

They are saving the client some money, I suppose.

How? The client is asking for these shops to be done.

Shops not done, no payment needed. Money saved.
@prince wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

@prince wrote:

They are saving the client some money, I suppose.

How? The client is asking for these shops to be done.

Shops not done, no payment needed. Money saved.

The MSC doesn't make any money
@drdoggie00 wrote:

@johnb974 wrote:

Cutting out your post and answering.

I don't tell anyone on here where I live, and I don't work for free. If the jobs are not on your board, you're not in my area.
Then your concerns about the shops going unfilled, the client not getting what they're paying for, and the MSC losing money are as phony as my concern for you.

The shops are not getting done, so the MSC loses money. The client is not getting the information they want, if the shops are not getting done. Those are the facts.
Im jusr here for the entertainment value of the conversation. You all are funny.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2024 11:02AM by Datagirl.
@Datagirl wrote:

Im jusr here for the entertainment value of the conversation. You all are funny.

I already finished a bucket of popcorn and coke, getting ready for the next bucket

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/15/2024 01:33PM by kisekinecro.
Enough with this cell phone ban thing ad nausem. We know..we know..we have our own issues to deal with...Now please stop and get over it..move on and don't lose sleep over IPSOS losing $$ because they aren't.

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I will share what happened in a similar situation, and how I was unbanned by another MSC. I was recognized by an employee from a previous shop there. I reported it to the scheduler. I was paid and did not complete a report. Subsequently, I was unable to assign shops for the client.

About six months later, I asked to be reinstated. There was a bonused shop at the same location and had received the offer from the scheduler. I said I would avoid the employee who had recognized me and perhaps that no report on my last encounter with him might seed doubt. I had made the call portion of the shop and knew another associate was working. I was assigned the shop, performed it and was paid. So now I am back shopping the client.

I would suggest waiting. Then, point out you disclosed being recognized and reported it to IPSOS so the integrity of the program was maintained. State that you will self-exclude shopping the location or if need be, the particular brand of cell phone service brand. Finally, point out your past success with these shops.

Do not read so much, look about you and think of what you see there.
Richard Feynman-- letter to Ashok Arora, 4 January 1967, published in Perfectly Reasonable Deviations from the Beaten Track (2005) p. 230
@whosear wrote:

I will share what happened in a similar situation, and how I was unbanned by another MSC. I was recognized by an employee from a previous shop there. I reported it to the scheduler. I was paid and did not complete a report. Subsequently, I was unable to assign shops for the client.

About six months later, I asked to be reinstated. There was a bonused shop at the same location and had received the offer from the scheduler. I said I would avoid the employee who had recognized me and perhaps that no report on my last encounter with him might seed doubt. I had made the call portion of the shop and knew another associate was working. I was assigned the shop, performed it and was paid. So now I am back shopping the client.

I would suggest waiting. Then, point out you disclosed being recognized and reported it to IPSOS so the integrity of the program was maintained. State that you will self-exclude shopping the location or if need be, the particular brand of cell phone service brand. Finally, point out your past success with these shops.

I did thst, they refused to remove the ban. It seems you're only banned if you admit to being caught as a mystery shopper.
@johnb974 wrote:

@whosear wrote:

I will share what happened in a similar situation, and how I was unbanned by another MSC. I was recognized by an employee from a previous shop there. I reported it to the scheduler. I was paid and did not complete a report. Subsequently, I was unable to assign shops for the client.

About six months later, I asked to be reinstated. There was a bonused shop at the same location and had received the offer from the scheduler. I said I would avoid the employee who had recognized me and perhaps that no report on my last encounter with him might seed doubt. I had made the call portion of the shop and knew another associate was working. I was assigned the shop, performed it and was paid. So now I am back shopping the client.

I would suggest waiting. Then, point out you disclosed being recognized and reported it to IPSOS so the integrity of the program was maintained. State that you will self-exclude shopping the location or if need be, the particular brand of cell phone service brand. Finally, point out your past success with these shops.

I did thst, they refused to remove the ban. It seems you're only banned if you admit to being caught as a mystery shopper.

If you are exposed as secret agent, you are dead. So being banned for $16 shop isn't that bad to be honest.

Just stop whining and move on with your life.
In the past, I have only reported scams and spam. Thank you for pointing out the 9-year-old post by the owner of this Forum.
@BusyBeeBuzzBuzzBuzz wrote:

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So, who's going to hit the 'report' button?

If your path dictates you walk through hell, do it as though you own the place. -unknown
John ~ It could be that they think that you’ve done too many of these shops to the point where it could become noticeable to the client. They won’t give you the courtesy of telling you that b/c they’re IPSOS and they view us as disposable suckers who aren’t worth their time. You shouldn’t be settling for $16.00 anyway. It only causes them to devalue you more.
Perhaps they got tired of seeing him bragging about the shops he does on his personal Facebook page. Timestamped photos and all.
@Dino29 wrote:

Perhaps they got tired of seeing him bragging about the shops he does on his personal Facebook page. Timestamped photos and all.

Isn't doing all that contrary to the IC contract we signed?
@Susan L. wrote:

@Dino29 wrote:

Perhaps they got tired of seeing him bragging about the shops he does on his personal Facebook page. Timestamped photos and all.

Isn't doing all that contrary to the IC contract we signed?

Kinda like the Tik Tok girl?
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