jerry1552 Wrote:
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> UnderCover Wrote:
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> > This is an example, in my opinion, of why MS
> seem
> > not to be true ICs -- the pay ("contract rate"
> is
> > not negotiated or set by the IC. The rate of
> pay
> > is set by the MSC which seems more like a
> > borderline employer.
> >
> > qpone Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > M Monty,
> > >
> > > It's always struck me odd that on the one
> hand,
> > > mystery shopping is one of those industries
> > where
> > > clear quality communication is so critical,
> and
> > on
> > > the other the pay is so bad.
> > >
> > > Since most of the time we are doing the job
> > based
> > > on paperwork we review, the ms company needs
> to
> > be
> > > absolutely clear about the instructions and
> > what
> > > they are looking for.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, since humans are writing the
> > > documents, clarity is not always achieved.
> That
> > > leads to the difference between what they
> > actually
> > > wanted and what we understood they wanted.
> > >
> > > As you have now experienced, the two sides
> are
> > not
> > > always on the same page. You can bring it to
> > the
> > > attention of the ms company, as you did...
> and
> > now
> > > your easy less than 15 minute, pays $5 shop
> has
> > > become a "deal" and you are into it thirty
> > > minutes... an hour... or more... and you fee
> > has
> > > not gone up.
> > >
> > > In addition, you can only press so hard with
> > the
> > > ms company because they are in the power
> > position
> > > and can cut you off from getting future
> shops.
> > >
> > > All in all, kind of a screwed position to be
> > in...
> > > but it is part of the way it is set up... and
> > part
> > > of the reason so many people drift away from
> > being
> > > a shopper.
> > >
> > > Good luck with your current situation...
> > continue
> > > to learn.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > M Monty Wrote:
> > >
> >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > Thank you qpone,
> > > >
> > > > I will definitely covet any and all
> > > encouragement
> > > > I receive. I felt I found a treasure trove
> > of
> > > > information when I found this forum. I
> read
> > for
> > > a
> > > > couple of days before posting. I am glad I
> > > did,
> > > > and I do not regret signing on. I want to
> do
> > > the
> > > > best I can, and work hard. I guess I don't
> > > want
> > > > to be one of those "one post newbies" who
> > never
> > > > return.
> > > >
> > > > I listened to many posts, and gleaned some
> > very
> > > > good advice from them. Today I had a very
> > > strange
> > > > experience with a phone shop I did
> involving
> > a
> > > new
> > > > car dealership. I self-assigned the shop,
> > > > downloaded the details, read the comments,
> > > printed
> > > > the survey questions. It was simple; so I
> > > > thought..
> > > >
> > > > I had to shop the newest type of vehicle on
> > the
> > > > lot which is a 2012, and evaluate the sales
> > > agent.
> > > > The acceptance email I received from the
> MSC
> > > gave
> > > > me the vehicle name, the guidelines gave me
> > the
> > > > vehicle name, the comments gave me the
> > vehicle
> > > > name, and the survey questions had
> references
> > > to
> > > > the vehicle I was to shop. Six and one
> half
> > > > minutes for the call, and less than seven
> > > minutes
> > > > for the report. The five dollars I
> accepted
> > > for
> > > > the shop was worth 13.5 minutes of work!
> It
> > is
> > > > not 50 cents a minute, but I'll live with
> 37
> > > > cents.
> > > >
> > > > I received an email from the scheduler
> saying
> > > > there was a "lot of confusion" about the
> type
> > > of
> > > > vehicle I was to shop, and those details
> are
> > > very
> > > > specific to the shop, regarding the type of
> > > > vehicle. The scheduler mentioned I should
> > > review
> > > > the acceptance email I got, and if I didn't
> > > have
> > > > it look at the comments about the shop. I
> > did
> > > > look at the details after receiving the
> email
> > > from
> > > > the scheduler, many, many times! I do not
> > see
> > > > where I shopped the wrong vehicle. The
> > > > information about a different vehicle just
> > > isn't
> > > > there! I even took the advice given in the
> > > > guidelines about researching the vehicle at
> > > > www.companynameusa.com (fake name of
> course).
> >
> > > The
> > > > absolute newest vehicle of the type I
> needed
> > to
> > > > shop will not be available until March 15,
> > 2012
> > > > according to the homepage of the company.
> In
> > > my
> > > > opinion, that vehicle does not apply.
> > > >
> > > > I took a screen shot of the first page of
> the
> > > > guidelines, the bottom of the second page,
> > the
> > > > acceptance email, the comment section,
> which
> > > all
> > > > had the vehicle I shopped; and sent it all
> to
> > > the
> > > > scheduler in my reply to her email. I am
> > very
> > > > curious as to the outcome of this whole
> > > > experience.
> > > >
> > > > I said all that in my ramblings to say this:
>
> > > > Thank you all for keeping me on point, and
> > > > sticking to the facts and not the first
> > response
> > > I
> > > > personally felt. The best course of
> action,
> > > due
> > > > to the forum, was to submit what I was
> > looking
> > > at.
> > > > Then let us determine where the confusion
> > lies.
> > >
> > > > I am not to proud to be wrong. I just need
> > to
> > > > know where I went wrong for future
> > corrections
> > > to
> > > > be made.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > M. Monty
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>
> I just completed an auto phone shop and I, too,
> got a message that I shopped the wrong vehicle.
> The vehicle that I got the quote on cost a lot
> mire than I was quoted. I heard correctly and
> asked about the correct vehicle. I think it was a
> ploy for me to get to the dealership as the
> salesman kept saying that I needed to come in ASAP
> for this price. (I'm sure if I had gone to this
> dealership, the salesman would have said he
> misunderstood or deny I stated a particular
> model.) Many SS's state that they record all their
> calls. Yo me, that is a lot of hassle to justify a
> report - it's not worth the effort.
> Even though I have done many shops for this MSC, I
> will resign for its lack of ethics.
Hello jerry1552,
I am getting into the habit of recording all my calls due to the fact I can jot very brief notes while recording, allowing me to do many more phone shops that I could not do without recording. As long as I check the recording right after the shop, I can go on to the next job, and hold off on submitting my reports right away. I can take a break, and then nail a bunch of reports one after the other by just doing a little payback, and transcribing. It works for me and is very efficient.
I know I would never be able to use the recordings as proof of my accuracies,since the MSC hold us to such a high standard of the ability of memorizing very minute details, it is an excellent resource for me to be as accurate as my puny human brain will not allow me to be. If I had to, I would transcribe the report verbatim to be exact. To me it is not any hardship to record since the 1 TB hard drive I use will allow me to record 13,900 hours of seamless conversation.
Besides, it gives me a good reason to play with my toys! I know this is serious business, but I would not be true to myself if I didn't try to be the best at it as I can. Ground floor usually doesn't work for me. If a company is unethical, I will do all that I can to determine if it may be just a fluke, or a reality, then I would bow out as gracefully as humanly possible.
Sincerely,
M. Monty
M. Monty
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