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Airborne is a soluble, effervescent vitamin pill with a megadose of Vitamin C. If you want to spend good money on making your pee full of vitamins, spend that $18 for a bottle. The placebo effect is strong enough that you can probably get some psychological benefits from taking it.
To get back to the science, this is a good peer-reviewed article that outlines the striking similarities between HIV and SARS-2 in terms of their effects on the immune system.
[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
It feels deeply weird to be sharing this on a mystery shopping forum site, but I’ve been reading accounts (in peer-reviewed scientific publications) of some of the early Long Covid patients dying of what looks a lot like AIDS. Thrush, odd lung infections, CD4+ T-Cell lymphopenia.
In layman’s terms, I ain’t messing around with it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2023 10:22PM by ColoKate63.
To get back to the science, this is a good peer-reviewed article that outlines the striking similarities between HIV and SARS-2 in terms of their effects on the immune system.
[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
It feels deeply weird to be sharing this on a mystery shopping forum site, but I’ve been reading accounts (in peer-reviewed scientific publications) of some of the early Long Covid patients dying of what looks a lot like AIDS. Thrush, odd lung infections, CD4+ T-Cell lymphopenia.
In layman’s terms, I ain’t messing around with it.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2023 10:22PM by ColoKate63.
@Madetoshop wrote:
While my family is way affectionate, I have tried my best to avoid shaking anyone's hand, hugging or kissing them since I was a young adult. It's so not avoidable in so many situations. People just extend and you have no choice. Now, my body language is to step back when I concentrate.
@prince wrote:
And don't hug everyone/shake hands. Stay home when you're sick.
I avoid crowds and still work to keep my distance.
Step back and say "I think I am coming down with a cold" usually works for me.
@tstewart3 wrote:
@prince wrote:
I'm a substitute teacher so I'm around a big number of students too. I haven't been wearing a mask but I'm willing to.
Do you use Airbourne? I do every day for immune support.
I've never heard of it.
@prince wrote:
@tstewart3 wrote:
@prince wrote:
I'm a substitute teacher so I'm around a big number of students too. I haven't been wearing a mask but I'm willing to.
Do you use Airbourne? I do every day for immune support.
I've never heard of it.
It is available over the counter in US stores. There should be a product page online. Research each ingredient and decide for yourself if this product might bolster your immunity.
Bach is not noise, Madam. (Robert, in Two's Company)
Airborne is not a secret potion. It’s vitamin C. Flowery packaging and TV ads will trick some ignorant people into paying $18 for 6 count tablets. If you’re smart, you can go to Trader Joes and buy chewable Vitamin C 500mg tablets, 100 count for $6.
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Airborne Agrees to Pay $23.3 Million to Settle Lawsuit Over False Advertising of its "Miracle Cold Buster"
The makers of Airborne—a multivitamin and herbal supplement whose labels and ads falsely claimed that the product cures and prevents colds—will refund money to consumers who bought the product, as part of a $23.3 million class action settlement agreement. The company will pay for ads in Better Homes & Gardens, Parade, People, Newsweek, and many other magazines and newspapers instructing consumers how to get refunds.
Concocted by second-grade teacher Victoria Knight McDowell and her screenwriter husband Thomas Rider McDowell, Airborne promised to “boost your immune system to help your body combat germs” and instructed users to “take it at the first sign of a cold symptom or before entering crowded, potentially germ-infested environments.” The company’s folksy “created by a school teacher!” slogan and insistence that the product be stocked with real cold, cough, and flu medicines instead of with dietary supplements, helped turn the company into an overnight success, as did an appearance by Victoria Knight McDowell on the Oprah Winfrey Show.
But in February 2006, ABC News revealed on Good Morning America that Airborne’s much-touted lone clinical trial was actually conducted without any doctors or scientists, just a “two-man operation started up just to do the Airborne study.” Soon after the plaintiff notified Airborne of his intent to file suit in March 2006, the company stopped mentioning the study and began toning down the overt cold-curing claims in favor of vague “immunity boosting” language. Next, in 2007, the Federal Trade Commission and a group of state attorneys general began investigating the various “cold busting” claims that Airborne has made since its launch in 1999. Those investigations are continuing.
Airborne’s basic formula contains Vitamins A, C, and E, as well as other nutrients common in multivitamins; the amino acids glutamine and lysine, and an “herbal extract proprietary blend.” CSPI cautions that Airborne may provide too much vitamin A, since just two pills provide 10,000 IU—the maximum safe level for a day—and the package directs customers to take three per day. In addition to several flavors of the original formula, other Airborne products include “Power Pixies,” an artificially sweetened powder version for children; Airborne Seasonal, which is described as a “non-drowsy formula containing a nutritional blend which promotes normal histamine levels”; Airborne On-the-Go; and Airborne Nighttime.
“There’s no credible evidence that what’s in Airborne can prevent colds or protect you from a germy environment,” said CSPI senior nutritionist David Schardt, who reviewed Airborne’s claims. “Airborne is basically an overpriced, run-of-the-mill vitamin pill that’s been cleverly, but deceptively, marketed.”
Consumers seeking refunds for purchases of Airborne can obtain a claim form by writing to the Airborne Class Action Settlement Administrator, PO Box 1897, Faribault, MN 55021-7152, calling 1-888-952-9080.
The class plaintiff was represented by California law firms which asked the nonprofit Center for Science in the Public Interest’s litigation project to join as co-counsel in late 2006 for its expertise in nutrition and labeling lawsuits. U.S. District Court Judge Virginia A. Phillips of the Central District of California gave preliminary approval to the settlement on November 29.
“This was a great opportunity for CSPI to participate in a major lawsuit against one of the biggest supplement frauds in the country,” said CSPI’s Litigation Director Stephen Gardner.
Created in 2005, CSPI’s litigation unit has successfully negotiated settlements that have resulted in improved food marketing and labeling practices. In June, CSPI struck a settlement agreement with Kellogg that resulted in nutrition standards for the foods that company markets to young children. CSPI has negotiated settlements that resulted in improved labeling or marketing of products made by Frito-Lay, Pinnacle Foods, Procter & Gamble, Quaker Oats and others. CSPI is currently pursuing litigation against Coca-Cola over its so-called “calorie burning” drink Enviga; Burger King, over its use of artificial trans fat; and Anheuser-Busch and Miller over their illegal marketing of alcoholic “energy” drinks.
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Airborne Agrees to Pay $23.3 Million to Settle Lawsuit Over False Advertising of its "Miracle Cold Buster"
The makers of Airborne—a multivitamin and herbal supplement whose labels and ads falsely claimed that the product cures and prevents colds—will refund money to consumers who bought the product, as part of a $23.3 million class action settlement agreement. The company will pay for ads in Better Homes & Gardens, Parade, People, Newsweek, and many other magazines and newspapers instructing consumers how to get refunds.
Concocted by second-grade teacher Victoria Knight McDowell and her screenwriter husband Thomas Rider McDowell, Airborne promised to “boost your immune system to help your body combat germs” and instructed users to “take it at the first sign of a cold symptom or before entering crowded, potentially germ-infested environments.” The company’s folksy “created by a school teacher!” slogan and insistence that the product be stocked with real cold, cough, and flu medicines instead of with dietary supplements, helped turn the company into an overnight success, as did an appearance by Victoria Knight McDowell on the Oprah Winfrey Show.
But in February 2006, ABC News revealed on Good Morning America that Airborne’s much-touted lone clinical trial was actually conducted without any doctors or scientists, just a “two-man operation started up just to do the Airborne study.” Soon after the plaintiff notified Airborne of his intent to file suit in March 2006, the company stopped mentioning the study and began toning down the overt cold-curing claims in favor of vague “immunity boosting” language. Next, in 2007, the Federal Trade Commission and a group of state attorneys general began investigating the various “cold busting” claims that Airborne has made since its launch in 1999. Those investigations are continuing.
Airborne’s basic formula contains Vitamins A, C, and E, as well as other nutrients common in multivitamins; the amino acids glutamine and lysine, and an “herbal extract proprietary blend.” CSPI cautions that Airborne may provide too much vitamin A, since just two pills provide 10,000 IU—the maximum safe level for a day—and the package directs customers to take three per day. In addition to several flavors of the original formula, other Airborne products include “Power Pixies,” an artificially sweetened powder version for children; Airborne Seasonal, which is described as a “non-drowsy formula containing a nutritional blend which promotes normal histamine levels”; Airborne On-the-Go; and Airborne Nighttime.
“There’s no credible evidence that what’s in Airborne can prevent colds or protect you from a germy environment,” said CSPI senior nutritionist David Schardt, who reviewed Airborne’s claims. “Airborne is basically an overpriced, run-of-the-mill vitamin pill that’s been cleverly, but deceptively, marketed.”
Consumers seeking refunds for purchases of Airborne can obtain a claim form by writing to the Airborne Class Action Settlement Administrator, PO Box 1897, Faribault, MN 55021-7152, calling 1-888-952-9080.
The class plaintiff was represented by California law firms which asked the nonprofit Center for Science in the Public Interest’s litigation project to join as co-counsel in late 2006 for its expertise in nutrition and labeling lawsuits. U.S. District Court Judge Virginia A. Phillips of the Central District of California gave preliminary approval to the settlement on November 29.
“This was a great opportunity for CSPI to participate in a major lawsuit against one of the biggest supplement frauds in the country,” said CSPI’s Litigation Director Stephen Gardner.
Created in 2005, CSPI’s litigation unit has successfully negotiated settlements that have resulted in improved food marketing and labeling practices. In June, CSPI struck a settlement agreement with Kellogg that resulted in nutrition standards for the foods that company markets to young children. CSPI has negotiated settlements that resulted in improved labeling or marketing of products made by Frito-Lay, Pinnacle Foods, Procter & Gamble, Quaker Oats and others. CSPI is currently pursuing litigation against Coca-Cola over its so-called “calorie burning” drink Enviga; Burger King, over its use of artificial trans fat; and Anheuser-Busch and Miller over their illegal marketing of alcoholic “energy” drinks.
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
The vaccines never protected anyone from getting Covid 19, they only hoped it would lessen the symptoms. Many do not believe the vaccine does more good than harm. Sometimes it's a topic that only brings angst. Let each for their own opinions is my opinion.
Have a blessed day!
Have a blessed day!
Yes its 2023 and people on here are still gullible and touting how good Airborne is.
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
@CrushinIt,
I dunno, sounds to me like you just "crushed" other people's opinions...see what I did there? ...and threw some religious farewell in there to boot! LOL
I dunno, sounds to me like you just "crushed" other people's opinions...see what I did there? ...and threw some religious farewell in there to boot! LOL
@ColoKate63 wrote:
Airborne is a soluble, effervescent vitamin pill with a megadose of Vitamin C. If you want to spend good money on making your pee full of vitamins, spend that $18 for a bottle. The placebo effect is strong enough that you can probably get some psychological benefits from taking it.
The last time I visited the grandkids, both of the three-year old twins were snotty. Twenty minutes after one of them sneezed on me directly I was driving to Target to get a supply of Airborne. The placebo effect was strong enough that I didn't come down with anything!
Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product. Eleanor Roosevelt
@ColoKate63 wrote:
Airborne is a soluble, effervescent vitamin pill with a megadose of Vitamin C. If you want to spend good money on making your pee full of vitamins, spend that $18 for a bottle.
My grand father, a drug store owner and later pharmaceutical manufacturer, used to quip that while Vitamin C has some value, its greatest benefit is profit.
It might be time to re-visit the Vitamin C research. Early results indicated that sufficient Vitamin C can ameliorate effects of stress (if I remember correctly). Illness is a stressor. Vitamins A,C and E are synergistic. Add some selenium for the Vitamin E and you have a different vitamin product. Is the Vitamin A of the 'dry' type? If so, a higher dose might be safe to consume. Vitamin A is good for the tissue linings, or something. Liquid supplements might be more readily bio-available and do not need to be taken with food. All this does not lead to an opinion about Airborne. It is just general information that might inform my opinion, eventually. Meanwhile, I also should find out whether Airborne has been tested in blind studies against other composite products... yeah, I know. Nerdy Girl has found another project...
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Bach is not noise, Madam. (Robert, in Two's Company)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2023 12:34AM by Shop-et-al.
So Interesting you bring this up. In a past profession, I had a customer who was the scientist behind a start-up company on the East Coast who had developed some type of Vitamin C nasal drops to help prevent illness. I had done some research at the time, just out of curiosity, and this was before everyone was using Airborne, etc. But I do believe there is something there.
@Shop-et-al wrote:
It might be time to re-visit the Vitamin C research. Early results indicated that sufficient Vitamin C can ameliorate effects of stress (if I remember correctly). Illness is a stressor. Vitamins A,C and E are synergistic. Add some selenium for the Vitamin E and you have a different vitamin product. Is the Vitamin A of the 'dry' type? If so, a higher dose might be safe to consume. Vitamin A is good for the tissue linings, or something. Liquid supplements might be more readily bio-available and do not need to be taken with food. All this does not lead to an opinion about Airborne. It is just general information that might inform my opinion, eventually. Meanwhile, I also should find out whether Airborne has been tested in blind studies against other composite products... yeah, I know. Nerdy Girl has found another project...
Actually Vit D is just as important as Vit. C in cold prevention. And zinc has some benefit at the onset of a sore throat.
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
Anectodal story:
Many years ago, I worked in a lab with a bunch of hyper-athletic scientists who did cyclocross, mountain climbing, triathlons. They all consumed large amounts of supplements and vitamins, including zinc tablets and Airborne.
Over the years, they all struggled with kidney stones, gallstones, gastrointestinal illnesses. Our metabolisms aren’t evolved to process large doses of these compounds. I take my multivitamin and when my blood is checked annually I’m just fine.
Many years ago, I worked in a lab with a bunch of hyper-athletic scientists who did cyclocross, mountain climbing, triathlons. They all consumed large amounts of supplements and vitamins, including zinc tablets and Airborne.
Over the years, they all struggled with kidney stones, gallstones, gastrointestinal illnesses. Our metabolisms aren’t evolved to process large doses of these compounds. I take my multivitamin and when my blood is checked annually I’m just fine.
Speaking of labs, there was an illegal underground lab found in California with covid+ mice. The lab is owned by foreigners from China.
San Francisco Bay Area, CA
Lol. Nothing to worry about. "The Science" has declared it was the safest illegal underground hybrid lab in history. Wear a paper mask!
@Tonytj wrote:
Speaking of labs, there was an illegal underground lab found in California with covid+ mice. The lab is owned by foreigners from China.
@Tanischri87,
"Follow the money"...it's likely routed in one of the Brandon family LLC's in a wire transfer (intentionally hard to trace). "Nothing to see here!" they say. ROFL [gullible Americans still suffering from COVID fatigue and mental illness]
"Follow the money"...it's likely routed in one of the Brandon family LLC's in a wire transfer (intentionally hard to trace). "Nothing to see here!" they say. ROFL [gullible Americans still suffering from COVID fatigue and mental illness]
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