A Georgia J&J vaccination site became the fourth in U.S. to pause its use: [nypost.com]@ wrote:
“The vaccine does not necessarily prevent you from getting COVID. It prevents you from being hospitalized or dying from it,” Dr. Kris Bungay, a Manhattan primary care physician, told The Post. “That is why we all still have to be careful.”
“It was not common in the clinical trials for patients to be symptomatic after getting vaccinated.” Bungay added.
Moderna’s and Pfizer’s two-dose vaccines are 94% and 95% effective, respectively, at preventing new coronavirus infections, according to the Centers for Disease Control. And while it’s more convenient, the single shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine only provides 66% protection.
@ wrote:
A coronavirus vaccine site in Georgia became the fourth US location this week to pause its administration of the Johnson & Johnson jab after concerns over possible adverse reactions, a report said.
Eight people experienced lightheadedness after getting the shot Wednesday at the Cumming Fairgrounds, though health officials believe that could have simply been caused by the hot weather, WSB-TV reported.
@maverick1 wrote:
@Shop-et-al: I believe you missed my point. I wasn't talking about the injection site operation itself where you get the shot. That's orderly as you describe (and in my case very low on customers receiving shots count). I was speaking of the logistics of matching demand of the vaccine to the supply chain. It's a major "clerical / programming" error when you move appointments from Oct. 2021 and pull the dates into Mar 2021. That's a logistic-101 faux pas. That means demand was drastically OVER estimated.
UH OH...This will be J&J's first hospitalization case that I know of. I wonder if this gentleman or anyone else may have gotten "tainted" J&J vaccines by chance?@ wrote:
EDISON, New Jersey (WABC) -- Laura Eugene's husband is in the hospital fighting for his life. She says they got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine back on March 6.
Eugene says on April 1, her husband started to feel sick.
Yeah, a few hospitalizations (out of 7 million J&J vaccinations given thus far) would not be statistically very significant. I was citing that news out of a nerdy interest in the science/numbers/news. However, the FDA is now pausing J&J's vax (announced today) out of caution after 1 person died and 6 people developed blood clots:@maverick1 wrote:
@shoptastic; Eh, statistically, that's below the noise floor. The J&J vaccine is also of a more traditional virus-based technology than the mRNA types. It's something to be watched, but not surprising in the least. Remember, all of these vaccines to date are only FDA emergency use labeled. None are FDA "approved."
Dr. Dena Grayson says: [twitter.com]@ wrote:
The Food and Drug Administration asked states on Tuesday to temporarily halt using Johnson & Johnson’s Covid-19 vaccine “out of an abundance of caution” after six women in the U.S. developed a rare blood-clotting disorder.
“Right now, these adverse events appear to be extremely rare,” the FDA said in a joint statement with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “COVID-19 vaccine safety is a top priority for the federal government, and we take all reports of health problems following COVID-19 vaccination very seriously.”
And from NYT: [twitter.com]@ wrote:
The rare syndrome of blood clots with low platelets associated with JNJ’s and Oxford/
@AstraZeneca’s #coronavirus vaccines may be a class effect.
BOTH vaccines use the same platform: an adenovirus, a common type of virus that typically causes mild cold symptoms.
Let's hope J&J's issues turn out to be very rare only. Still, one thing that could happen is a perception change of J&J from this. After AstraZ was paused and then returned to use, people were hesitant to take it. The same could happen with J&J. The "look" of the pause could lead some to avoid J&J later down the line.@ wrote:
“The clots in recipients of the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine have drawn heightened concern because of their unusual constellation of symptoms: blockages in major veins, often those that drain blood from the brain, combined with low platelet counts.”
...also from Grayson.@ wrote:
Important to note that 1) these clots are VERY RARE, and 2) we should have enough of Pfizer’s and Moderna’s #CovidVaccine shots to vaccinate EVERY American by the end of May.
Not happy about the deaths. I would still rather be vaccinated than not certainly, but was hoping we'd continue to see a "perfect" death record post-vaccination.@ wrote:
(CNN)About 5,800 people who have been vaccinated against coronavirus have become infected anyway, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tells CNN.
Some became seriously ill and 74 people died, the CDC said. It said 396 -- 7% -- of those who got infected after they were vaccinated required hospitalization.
This is the CDC's first public accounting of breakthrough cases, and the agency is searching for patterns based on patient age and gender, location, type of vaccine, variants and other factors.
[www.cnbc.com]@Shop-et-al wrote:
I understand. My inner perfectionist who wants this is somewhat mollified by the fact that individual differences confound things, including vaccines and other medical matters. OTOH, perhaps in due time we will know more about the major and minor differences and can prevent more deaths. ?
The 0 deaths/severely ill statistic seems to contradict the earlier article posted above this. Hmmm.@ wrote:
U.S. health officials have confirmed fewer than 6,000 cases of Covid-19 in fully vaccinated Americans, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky said Monday.
That represents just 0.007% of the 84 million Americans with full protection against the virus. Despite the breakthrough infections, none of the patients have died or gotten severely ill, indicating the vaccines are working as intended, she said.