Uploading a Gov't ID?
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I have uploaded mine. Anywhere I have ever worked has a copy, the bank has a copy, the hospital and doctor office has a copy...this list goes on and on. These companies also have our SS#.
yes, they need our SS# to pay us, but I would guess only want Drivers License # or similar, to check criminal records?
I can help them with that in other ways.
I can help them with that in other ways.
any reason we are not naming the MSC? I agree it's not something they need to see. Maybe if they asked for a picture so they know who you are if reviewing video from a contested shop.
But they do not need driver's license.
weren't there those crustacean shops awhile back where you had to take a selfie in front of the sign? I know some people had issues with that too.
But they do not need driver's license.
weren't there those crustacean shops awhile back where you had to take a selfie in front of the sign? I know some people had issues with that too.
I can see the age limited shops asking for a copy to prove you're in the reqired demographic. Like under 30 for tobacco or alcohol purchase shops, or over 65 for other shops. But I agree. It should be shop specific.
And they should be able to run a background check with your name and ssn.
And they should be able to run a background check with your name and ssn.
It's not me/us, but...I would expect shoppers will start seeing this more and more from the MSC's as we work to battle fraud (criminals are so creative).
It is unlikely that any MSC is running a background check as that should/would be disclosed during the sign-up process, it's more likely that it is another layer to help combat fraud and verify the person signing up is who they say they are.
Those companies that will retain (we do this for the theatre shops under our sister portal) are likely implementing these procedures themselves. I know there is at least one other MSC that uses a service to verify identity, but uncertain if they actually retain the ID within their system or if it's confirmed third party and noted within the system as a "checked" item.
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It is unlikely that any MSC is running a background check as that should/would be disclosed during the sign-up process, it's more likely that it is another layer to help combat fraud and verify the person signing up is who they say they are.
Those companies that will retain (we do this for the theatre shops under our sister portal) are likely implementing these procedures themselves. I know there is at least one other MSC that uses a service to verify identity, but uncertain if they actually retain the ID within their system or if it's confirmed third party and noted within the system as a "checked" item.
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The MSC is Consultants for Long Term Care. I see they have very recently advertised here looking for shoppers.
If they want to verify that I am who I say I am, we can conduct a tele interview. I can hold up my ID so they can see it's me in the ID photo.
To store it on their website is just another level that concerns me.
I can vouch for other companies that use a third party system.
It's my opinion that their need for verification is running up against my right to privacy.
Going forward if more MSCs try this, I think we'll need to meet in the middle or part ways.
I have to upload a govt ID for my bank, but I at least know that my bank is regulated by some level of professional security - vs. some small business? I doubt it.
Ok, I've said my piece...time to move on lol.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2024 02:21AM by BarefootBliss.
If they want to verify that I am who I say I am, we can conduct a tele interview. I can hold up my ID so they can see it's me in the ID photo.
To store it on their website is just another level that concerns me.
I can vouch for other companies that use a third party system.
It's my opinion that their need for verification is running up against my right to privacy.
Going forward if more MSCs try this, I think we'll need to meet in the middle or part ways.
I have to upload a govt ID for my bank, but I at least know that my bank is regulated by some level of professional security - vs. some small business? I doubt it.
Ok, I've said my piece...time to move on lol.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2024 02:21AM by BarefootBliss.
Non-mystery shopping related, some state jurisdictions require the driver's license information if you e-file a tax return. Like others have mentioned, if someone is trying to file an individual return for a refund.
For MSCs though, I think Reality Based Group requires a selfie with an ID.
For MSCs though, I think Reality Based Group requires a selfie with an ID.
I've uploaded a picture of my ID to a couple MSC's, reluctantly. Not that it doesn't make me uncomfortable, but I think it may be or become a necessary evil. I don't like giving my SS# either, but that I at least understand.
Okie, you're in Texas with no state income tax. Maybe Oklahoma has one? I understand you're just contributing.
@BarefootBliss wrote:
The MSC is Consultants for Long Term Care. I see they have very recently advertised here looking for shoppers.
If they want to verify that I am who I say I am, we can conduct a tele interview. I can hold up my ID so they can see it's me in the ID photo.
To store it on their website is just another level that concerns me.
I can vouch for other companies that use a third party system.
It's my opinion that their need for verification is running up against my right to privacy.
Going forward if more MSCs try this, I think we'll need to meet in the middle or part ways.
I have to upload a govt ID for my bank, but I at least know that my bank is regulated by some level of professional security - vs. some small business? I doubt it.
Ok, I've said my piece...time to move on lol.
And I believe I've never heard of this MSC. And ive done multiple long term care shops. Perhaphs they want proof youre old enough to have a parent needind long term care. But IMHA it should be job specific not life long
Just don't do their shops.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2024 04:05AM by wrosie.
Just an example of an additional layer of identification. I can be a part-year resident or non-resident of another state with a tax obligation!
Okie,
Why would you declare residency in a state you have to pay taxes to if you can declare in a state you dont have to.
It boggles my mind. Or your my sister with no common sense.
Sorry if that hurts but IMHO it's the truth.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2024 04:15AM by wrosie.
Why would you declare residency in a state you have to pay taxes to if you can declare in a state you dont have to.
It boggles my mind. Or your my sister with no common sense.
Sorry if that hurts but IMHO it's the truth.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2024 04:15AM by wrosie.
I don't think you understand anything I typed. To be civil, let's just leave it at that. I don't really understand the personal fascination, as well?
Well, I guess just to further clarify your inquiry here. Someone can have a state income tax liability to a state in which he/she is not a resident. If still that confuses you, you can do further self-research.@wrosie wrote:
Okie,
Why would you declare residency in a state you have to pay taxes to if you can declare in a state you dont have to.
It boggles my mind. Or your my sister with no common sense.
Sorry if that hurts but IMHO it's the truth.
I generally have waited to upload this type of information with a new company until I have found they had a job I wanted to apply for. Once that happens I am an independent contractor or theirs and in my life experience when I contract to work for some one they need my id. Most of these companies have a secure website. I have seen huge well regarded and secure companies be hacked so that seems to be a way of life these days. There are plenty of msc that do not ask for an iD so you can still work elsewhere if you do not agree with their rules.
of course. Like almost everything else in life, we can vote with our time, our wallets, our attention or lack thereof.
when I see government ID, I am stopping such application
Shopping Eastern Pennsylvania since 2009
@Okie, now I see what you were talking about in the other thread. I think you did not do a good job explaining, because most people have never been in that situation. Experience informs a lot of our knowledge. Both you and @wrosie are good people - both of you are smart and often have solid thoughts. Pardon me while I explain a little about this. Then, let's hug this out. The Doc and I have to do this all the time, though we might do more than hug. 
I was born, raised, and a residence of Virginia. When I went away to college, it was in North Carolina. When I was at school, for 9 months out of the year, I worked for the State of North Carolina. When I was home for the summer, I worked a small job here in Virginia. Because I had income from two different states, I had income tax withheld by both states and I had to file income taxes for both.
Years later, I lived several years in Oklahoma where I worked at the time. Late during the 3rd year there, I moved to another state where I had gained employment. At tax time, I filed taxes for Oklahoma and the new state. Had I moved to a third state and worked in that state in that same tax year, I would have filed 3 different state income tax returns, if the 3rd state had state income taxes.
Another situation that often arises here where I live now, which is on a state border, is that many people live in my state, but work in the state that is one mile from my house. Assuming their only job is in that other state, they would only file taxes for that state, though their residency is here.
In Okie's example, if a resident of Wichita Falls, TX worked across the Red River at the Comanche War Pony Casino, which is on the other side of the Red River into Oklahoma, that person would pay state income tax to Oklahoma and file their state income taxes with Oklahoma, though they are a legal resident of Texas and would not be subject to state income taxes if they were working at the Buns Over Texas Bar & Grille in Wichita Falls instead.
There are other reasons why a person might have to pay state income tax to a non-resident state, but I won't go into that here. I just wanted to explain and provide a couple of examples. Now, let's hug!
I was born, raised, and a residence of Virginia. When I went away to college, it was in North Carolina. When I was at school, for 9 months out of the year, I worked for the State of North Carolina. When I was home for the summer, I worked a small job here in Virginia. Because I had income from two different states, I had income tax withheld by both states and I had to file income taxes for both.
Years later, I lived several years in Oklahoma where I worked at the time. Late during the 3rd year there, I moved to another state where I had gained employment. At tax time, I filed taxes for Oklahoma and the new state. Had I moved to a third state and worked in that state in that same tax year, I would have filed 3 different state income tax returns, if the 3rd state had state income taxes.
Another situation that often arises here where I live now, which is on a state border, is that many people live in my state, but work in the state that is one mile from my house. Assuming their only job is in that other state, they would only file taxes for that state, though their residency is here.
In Okie's example, if a resident of Wichita Falls, TX worked across the Red River at the Comanche War Pony Casino, which is on the other side of the Red River into Oklahoma, that person would pay state income tax to Oklahoma and file their state income taxes with Oklahoma, though they are a legal resident of Texas and would not be subject to state income taxes if they were working at the Buns Over Texas Bar & Grille in Wichita Falls instead.
There are other reasons why a person might have to pay state income tax to a non-resident state, but I won't go into that here. I just wanted to explain and provide a couple of examples. Now, let's hug!
Thanks, Service. Yes, I just spoke in generalities. I didn't watch to go into detail and get further off topic. Now, I'm channeling johb974 though!
I don't want to speak for wrosie, but based on his response, it seems like he understands being a part-year resident and working outside of your domicile state, as that was his point of contention. I didn't want to further explain that some may not have that choice. The person lives where they live and work where they work. Sometimes, it's by choice, even with taxes. If I'm not mistaken, in the Midwest and Northeast, there may even be state reciprocity agreements, where this is more common.
I briefly just mentioned you can even be a nonresident of a state and still be taxed, since he only acknowledged why I would "declare residency in a state" and then further stated "I had no common sense like his sister." I'm an open book when it comes to mystery shopping, but not so much with taxes if I can help it.
For a very simple example, let's say, said Okie who resides in Texas, made a trip to Oklahoma and made a significant amount in gambling winnings. Unfortunately, I live where I live, and the "house" is where the "house" is. Unfortunately, said Okie now has to file a nonresident state tax return. I can further provide examples of entertainers, professional athletes, partnerships, but I won't!
I don't want to speak for wrosie, but based on his response, it seems like he understands being a part-year resident and working outside of your domicile state, as that was his point of contention. I didn't want to further explain that some may not have that choice. The person lives where they live and work where they work. Sometimes, it's by choice, even with taxes. If I'm not mistaken, in the Midwest and Northeast, there may even be state reciprocity agreements, where this is more common.
I briefly just mentioned you can even be a nonresident of a state and still be taxed, since he only acknowledged why I would "declare residency in a state" and then further stated "I had no common sense like his sister." I'm an open book when it comes to mystery shopping, but not so much with taxes if I can help it.
For a very simple example, let's say, said Okie who resides in Texas, made a trip to Oklahoma and made a significant amount in gambling winnings. Unfortunately, I live where I live, and the "house" is where the "house" is. Unfortunately, said Okie now has to file a nonresident state tax return. I can further provide examples of entertainers, professional athletes, partnerships, but I won't!
No harm no fowl I think is what the youngsters say. If you live in Dallas and win $1 million in Oklahoma, i have no clue on the tax repercussions. I was just thinking day to day earnings.
@Okie. Tax situations like this are so,so common and everyday.
If I felt I had to in order to get a coveted job, I would do so and block out my license number. So far, I have not. The furthest I have gone is uploading a picture of myself for high end luxury shops.
I never thought of that - could block key info so all they see is the pic, which is fine.
Just strikes me odd. I used to shop kid's daycare centers and even they didn't make me show that kind of ID.
Just strikes me odd. I used to shop kid's daycare centers and even they didn't make me show that kind of ID.
There are two MSCs that are now asking for your government ID and your voice reading a small script uploaded in order to be accepted for shops. I used to do a lot of shops for the 1st MSC, but I stopped after this requirement.
I did upload the ID picture for the companies that asked, I didn't like it, but I did do it. But I won't record my voice for them or anyone else. The phone company keep trying to get me to use a voice print to access my account, and I will NOT do it.
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