Debating Leaving Mystery Shopping.....

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@MikiNV wrote:

PO, delete your original post. All this is ridiculous and insulting.
Well, I guess that makes us even then. For the record, I find your post quite insulting. Happy Shopping in 2019 to you regardless. Squireparty

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If you have such an aversion to "American Police Brutality" why would you ever put yourself in a position to have to interact with such an authority figure while conducting this $13 shop? I would think that given your sensitivities to the police, you would screen and avoid any situation, including shopping, that put you into direct contact with the police?!

Also, your passive-aggressive use of escalation tactics such as; national media expose, multi-million dollar lawsuits, picketing and protesting the university with a group of activists, hatching plots against the university, comparing anyone's behavior in any way to the Holocaust, calling basically anyone who would listen (i.e. Chief of Security, Dean of college, MSC president, Schedulers, claiming a near false-arrest when there was NO indication that this was even possible, and even the court of public opinion -- this forum) was completely over-the-top. Saying you're NOT going to do these things is a passive-aggressive way of introducing them to the conversation none-the-less. Even if you were mistreated in some way like an invasion of your personal space and use of a loud voice, the escalation on your part would seem to be overly dramatic given the circumstances.

If you're going to air your situation in the forum (which like it or not is the court of public opinion) you have to have a thick enough skin to accept opinions that differ from your own.

My advice is own your mistake in this matter, realize that not having your LOA set these events in motion, avoid encounters with authority figures in the future, and don't be so quick to make mountains out of molehills.

P.S. Even though I do not agree with most of your opinions regarding this event, I still respect your opinions and would not want to see you leave the forum just because some of us do not agree with you. Thicken up your skin a bit...

"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl -- year after year..."
I have had a shop on a gas station several years ago where the employee got mad about taking her picture. a screaming match developed The local sheriff was called and internet service was almost none. I had to email the help desk for they have no human you can talk to. I was not arrested but I have not been able to preform the shop again.
I'm so confused by your post. I taught MCAT/LSAT/GRE/GMAT for years at a number of college campuses. I visited lots of buildings, and never had anything close to an issue. I never had an authorization letter or the like. My husband and I have shopped campus food locations also. If anyone would have stopped me, I would have told them why I was there. Fear would not be my first response. I do not get your post. Do you think people are out to get you? Have you been taught that cops in any form are bad? Oh, don't reference the Holocaust like you did, it's offensive to Jewish people among others.
Would I have responded with fear, or would I have been inspired to recall lessons about the Holocaust? I dunno. I was not the person in the real situation. Perhaps fear is the mildest of responses that any of us would have had to the same situation. We were not there. As time passes and some behaviors change, I frequently wonder whether one reason some people today express belief that the Holocaust never happened is because they are, in their own times and places, living it now. They do not see it because it aligns with them. It does not stand out in contrast to what they do or say. Who knows.

I read something the other day. It was from Elaine Aron, who teaches about highly sensitive people. These people might be especially sensitive to subtleties in situations. Was the OP temporarily sensitive to some subtle cue in the situation that other people might overlook? As always, I do not know. I merely ask seemingly endless questions.

Bach is not noise, Madam. (Robert, in Two's Company)
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I merely ask seemingly endless questions.

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At the moment only demons come to mind
@squireparty Thank you for sharing this. I say keep shopping, yet perhaps with different clients. The fact that Lorri Kern (of all people) stood up for you says A LOT.

Hope to see you back out there. Thank you for standing up for something that you felt was the right thing to do.
It may be that the security official, obnoxious and overbearing as he was, had a little help in escalating the situation.
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@msimon-2000 wrote:

If you have such an aversion to "American Police Brutality" why would you ever put yourself in a position to have to interact with such an authority figure while conducting this $13 shop? I would think that given your sensitivities to the police, you would screen and avoid any situation, including shopping, that put you into direct contact with the police?!

Also, your passive-aggressive use of escalation tactics such as; national media expose, multi-million dollar lawsuits, picketing and protesting the university with a group of activists, hatching plots against the university, comparing anyone's behavior in any way to the Holocaust, calling basically anyone who would listen (i.e. Chief of Security, Dean of college, MSC president, Schedulers, claiming a near false-arrest when there was NO indication that this was even possible, and even the court of public opinion -- this forum) was completely over-the-top. Saying you're NOT going to do these things is a passive-aggressive way of introducing them to the conversation none-the-less. Even if you were mistreated in some way like an invasion of your personal space and use of a loud voice, the escalation on your part would seem to be overly dramatic given the circumstances.

If you're going to air your situation in the forum (which like it or not is the court of public opinion) you have to have a thick enough skin to accept opinions that differ from your own.

My advice is own your mistake in this matter, realize that not having your LOA set these events in motion, avoid encounters with authority figures in the future, and don't be so quick to make mountains out of molehills.

P.S. Even though I do not agree with most of your opinions regarding this event, I still respect your opinions and would not want to see you leave the forum just because some of us do not agree with you. Thicken up your skin a bit...
And here is another reason I wish to be deleted here and discontinue participation in this online community. I can at least Thank You for making my reasons crystal clear to one and all. Without attacking you, please read my posts, please go back and read and you will find the following. For starters, I said to Lori at KSS in a post that I would not be protesting the University nor hatching plots - please go back and read - I said I was not that petty and that I have a life. I also stated repeatedly that I was not after money and Lori voluntarily stated in one of her posts that she understands that this is not about money for me. It never was and I{don't want the $13 after this. I have been told I will be paid regardless and the money is going to a food bank as I want it going to a third party place where it will do some good after what I dealt with. About the media exposure - it is true that I would progressed to this had I been blown off, which I was not, but it would have been local in nature....but I would have went everywhere possible locally, this much is true. I'm happy to report that such was not necessary. So there has been no media component involved nor will there be. About the Holocaust - once again, this was brought into the picture only as a way of making it clear how strong and how serious I am/was. It was not meant as disrespect to the millions who lost their lives, which could have included since passed on relatives of mine who managed to hide in Austria on fake paperwork. Fascinating people they were too that I am honored to be related to, as I said, unfortunately at this late date they have all passed on.

Having said all that, I once again ask to have my account deleted. My take is that this online community has some aspects of high school to it - now calm down, everyone!!!!! I will name no names and no, not everyone here behaves as if they belong in high school. A few do that are quite vocal if you don't play by their PC posting rules, which obviously I don't. I've had my fill as my take is that I have posted nothing all that bad that deserves some of (but not all) the types of replies I've received. Obviously I can't change anything around here, nor do I care.to. It's clear that I don't fit in well here, and I'm not going to change to fit in as my take is that I have done nothing wrong.

Simple solution? Find a moderator to delete me. This would be quick and painless and would cost nothing that I am aware of. Ban me, block me, delete, do what you can to make me disappear and peace and serenity can return to this board until someone else falls short of PC posting criteria. And no snark, drama, hard feelings, whatever - I truly don't fit in well here - is it not best for all parties to delete me? Seriously, how much more adult can I be here? Squireparty
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Simple solution? Find a moderator to delete me. This would be quick and painless and would cost nothing that I am aware of. Ban me, block me, delete, do what you can to make me disappear and peace and serenity can return to this board until someone else falls short of PC posting criteria. And no snark, drama, hard feelings, whatever - I truly don't fit in well here - is it not best for all parties to delete me? Seriously, how much more adult can I be here? Squireparty

Simple solution? Just stop logging in. If you don'.t want to be here, don't be here. You don't need a moderator to block you from logging in. What - you're just going to keep logging in to argue and continue to request that a moderator delete you until you find yourself blocked from logging in? You can just make a decision yourself and stick to it.
I have a feeling the "simple solution" to stop being "attacked" would be to stop posting and stop visiting this website.
Dude, just be gone. You are wasting everyone's time and begging for attention that turned out to be negative. You got MSC involved, scheduler, etc. You are taking time from the scheduler and MSC that can be given to other, more deserving, shoppers. You are selfish and childish and trying to make a point after failing to do a good job. I reported you.


Squireparty: (added for clarification)
Having said all that, I once again ask to have my account deleted. My take is that this online community has some aspects of high school to it - now calm down, everyone!!!!! I will name no names and no, not everyone here behaves as if they belong in high school. A few do that are quite vocal if you don't play by their PC posting rules, which obviously I don't.

Simple solution? Find a moderator to delete me. This would be quick and painless and would cost nothing that I am aware of. Ban me, block me, delete, do what you can to make me disappear and peace and serenity can return to this board until someone else falls short of PC posting criteria. And no snark, drama, hard feelings, whatever - I truly don't fit in well here - is it not best for all parties to delete me? Seriously, how much more adult can I be here? Squireparty[/quote]

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@roflwofl wrote:

@squireparty wrote:



Simple solution? Find a moderator to delete me. This would be quick and painless and would cost nothing that I am aware of. Ban me, block me, delete, do what you can to make me disappear and peace and serenity can return to this board until someone else falls short of PC posting criteria. And no snark, drama, hard feelings, whatever - I truly don't fit in well here - is it not best for all parties to delete me? Seriously, how much more adult can I be here? Squireparty

Simple solution? Just stop logging in. If you don'.t want to be here, don't be here. You don't need a moderator to block you from logging in. What - you're just going to keep logging in to argue and continue to request that a moderator delete you until you find yourself blocked from logging in? You can just make a decision yourself and stick to it.
I'll give you this - your are not entirely wrong in what you have posted. The reason I wish a moderator to intervene and make it permanent is one simple word - Closure. That's all I'm seeking here, closure. I'll say it one more, time, I don't fit in here very well - at least with some of the more vocal posters - and I accept this. I bash no one nor do I seek any changes here - I seek closure. And maybe it would in an offhand and perhaps for some this is difficult to understand but at this this point being blocked/banned/deleted would be a gesture of respect. Please, if anyone on the board has these powers, or can email someone that does, please do so. No drama, no snark, no name calling - just please do so if someone would. Thank You. Squireparty
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@MikiNV wrote:

Dude, just be gone. You are wasting everyone's time and begging for attention that turned out to be negative. You got MSC involved, scheduler, etc. You are taking time from the scheduler and MSC that can be given to other, more deserving, shoppers. You are selfish and childish and trying to make a point after failing to do a good job. I reported you.


Squireparty: (added for clarification)
Having said all that, I once again ask to have my account deleted. My take is that this online community has some aspects of high school to it - now calm down, everyone!!!!! I will name no names and no, not everyone here behaves as if they belong in high school. A few do that are quite vocal if you don't play by their PC posting rules, which obviously I don't.

Simple solution? Find a moderator to delete me. This would be quick and painless and would cost nothing that I am aware of. Ban me, block me, delete, do what you can to make me disappear and peace and serenity can return to this board until someone else falls short of PC posting criteria. And no snark, drama, hard feelings, whatever - I truly don't fit in well here - is it not best for all parties to delete me? Seriously, how much more adult can I be here? Squireparty
[/quote]Though we obviously don't see eye to eye, if by "reporting" me you mean you reached out to someone to banish me (or whatever word you care to use) from this online community, you are helping me to achieve closure so ironically enough, I do Thank You for this much. Best to you going forward regardless of the friction between us here. Squireparty
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@nslinhar wrote:

I have a feeling the "simple solution" to stop being "attacked" would be to stop posting and stop visiting this website.
As I see it, you are also not entirely wrong and you do have a point here, granted and given right now. I just want permanent closure is all - hence wishing for a block/ban/deletion/however such works here. Squireparty
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@Eric in Tampa wrote:

@squireparty Thank you for sharing this. I say keep shopping, yet perhaps with different clients. The fact that Lorri Kern (of all people) stood up for you says A LOT.

Hope to see you back out there. Thank you for standing up for something that you felt was the right thing to do.
Eric in Tampa - Thank You for your kind words. I really appreciate them. Best wishes to you and many juicy bonuses in 2019 to you! Squireparty
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It was an interesting story at first, but this is going on too long. I have used the report feature and "reported" all this to the moderators. They have the power to delete your account, if you so desire.

*Edditted fer gramer ishews.

Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.


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Here's a professional way - at least I personally see this as professional - to state my take on this online community at this point. I'm overall not a good fit here. People in the professional world lose their jobs every day for this reason - for not fitting into their working environment in some way. Usually it's the one cutting the checks calling this decision - here's it's the IC saying this is not a good fit. A minor script flip perhaps, but the same thing, essentially. With the exception of a few scattered posters, I'm not a good fit here. Those not agreeing with my OP, I'd like to believe that you can at least see that it is true that I am not a good fit here. In the workplace I'd be fired - here I am VOLUNTARILY asking for the equivalent from this online community. That's all. But yes it's true that I could just as easily log off and never return - those of you who have posted along these lines have a point and I won't deny this. I just want permanent closure is all - is this too much to ask for? Seems as if it as but someone above has "reported" me so they say - so hopefully this will lead to the gesture of closure I'm seeking. Good day to all regardless. Anyone shopping today, best outcomes for your shops to you, even to those who have taken issue with my posts. Squireparty
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@MFJohnston wrote:

@squireparty
It was an interesting story at first, but this is going on too long. I have used the report feature and "reported" all this to the moderators. They have the power to delete your account, if you so desire.

*Edditted fer gramer ishews.
Thank You for taking action. I do appreciate this. Best wishes to you. Squireparty

PS I did not know how to go about doing this myself - had I known I would have done such in a non-public manner.
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@Irene_L.A. wrote:

Drinks for the house;;;;;;
Double Grey Goose and Tonic for all who imbibe LOL. Squireparty
In the bottom right hand corner of all messages, there is are four buttons. "Quote," "Repy," "!" and "thumbs down."

The "!" button starts a report to the mods. Hit the button. Fill out the note.

Hard work builds character and homework is good for your soul.
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@MFJohnston wrote:

In the bottom right hand corner of all messages, there is are four buttons. "Quote," "Repy," "!" and "thumbs down."

The "!" button starts a report to the mods. Hit the button. Fill out the note.
Thank You for passing along the above instructions and I mean this one hundred percent sincerely. I will attend to contacting the moderators myself in a but a few minutes. Best wishes to you out there mystery shopping - and the same to all here, even those who took issue with my posts. I wish to leave "cleanly" and the above instructions allow for such. Squireparty
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@nslinhar wrote:

#imout
I'm out too. I have followed the above instructions kindly passed along to me and have contacted whoever moderates here this way. With any luck I will soon be given the closing gesture I seek and will be gone. Adios. Squireparty
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I am wondering if you went on and on like this with the security person. Did you continue to pressure and pressure and try to get your point across again and again, seeking closure with the security person? If so, maybe you just pushed them over the edge with your own attitude.
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@Msaddict wrote:

I am wondering if you went on and on like this with the security person. Did you continue to pressure and pressure and try to get your point across again and again, seeking closure with the security person? If so, maybe you just pushed them over the edge with your own attitude.
For the sake of the next person who finds themselves persona non grata in this online community, I will state this one last time. There was no escalation on my part. Before I left quickly and in a great deal of fear, I did attempt to show the Campus Security Officer in question my smartphone, open to where the email assigning me this shop was. This one bit really did seem to set them off - they were already overly aggressive and threatening and once they ratched it up further, I bolted. What I can recommend for anyone who is willing to listen and have an open mind - perhaps shops with a security component of any kind are best avoided. Should I continue mystery shopping (which I personally am up in the air about for what it's worth, and I understand that no one asked) I will not be taking shops with a security component and/or a university setting going forward. This is the one positive takeaway I have to offer those here who are willing to listen. Whether or not you pay any mind to this advice is entirely up to you, of course. Squireparty
Wow. Three pages of bla bla bla. Anybody care to summarize it for the TL/DR crowd?

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@Hoju wrote:

Wow. Three pages of bla bla bla. Anybody care to summarize it for the TL/DR crowd?
One sentence will summarize for you. I'm a poor fit for this online community, I've accepted such, and with the tech help I've received above I've sent a PM to JacobJ to be deactivated - problem solved. Squireparty
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